Cinema News: Roger Deakins on making more than ‘pretty pictures’

November 28, 2025 | View in browser

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By Mark Olsen

Staff Writer

Hello! I'm Mark Olsen. Welcome to another edition of your regular field guide to a world of Only Good Movies.

This week I spoke to James L. Brooks, whose legendary career includes "The Mary Tyler Moore Show," "Terms of Endearment," "Broadcast News" and "The Simpsons," about his new film "Ella McCay," which opens in theaters Dec. 12.

The film stars Emma Mackey as a classic Brooksian heroine: a lieutenant governor of a small, unnamed state with a genuine desire to make other people's lives better who unexpectedly finds herself thrust into the job of governor.

Warm and affectionate toward its characters while also clear-eyed about their all-too-human imperfections, the film is the kind of made-for-adults dramedy that is currently out-of-favor with Hollywood.

"I don't believe people don't want comedy," Brooks said. "Obviously, I hope that you have meat on the bone and that doesn't mean you can't do a real scene about real difficulty, especially with this picture."

Matt Brennan spoke to Renate Reinsve, star of Joachim Trier's "Sentimental Value," while the two of them toured Frank Lloyd Wright's Hollyhock House. Carlos Aguilar spent time with Amy Madigan, the veteran actor enjoying renewed career energy thanks to her role as Aunt Gladys in "Weapons."

Among the movies' new releases, Amy Nicholson reviewed Rian Johnson's latest Benoit Blanc story, "Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery," calling it the "darkest, funniest and best installment yet."

Amy also reviewed Chloé Zhao's "Hamnet," an adaptation of Maggie O'Farrell's novel about William Shakespeare (Paul Mescal) and his wife Agnes (Jessie Buckley) as they grapple with the death of their young son Hamnet, a grief that results in the play "Hamlet."

If you are really looking to get away from family this week, consider Julia Loktev's five-and-a-half-hour documentary "My Undesirable Friends: Part I — Last Air in Moscow," which chronicles the fall of one of the last independent news channels in Russia, largely run by women, during the country's invasion of Ukraine. Loktev and one of the film's subjects, Ksenia Mironova, will be at the Laemmle Royal for Q&As after certain shows on the 28th and 29th.

As Tim Grierson put it in his review, "During a year in which the worst-case scenarios of a second Trump presidency have come to fruition, 'My Undesirable Friends' contains plenty of echoes with our national news. The canceling of comedy shows, the baseless imprisonment of innocent people, the rampant transphobia: The Putin playbook is now this country's day-to-day. Some may wish to avoid Loktev's film because of those despairing parallels. But that's only more reason to embrace 'My Undesirable Friends.' Loktev didn't set out to be a witness to history, but what she's emerged with is an indispensable record and a rallying cry."

Also opening this week is another of the year's most boldly unconventional films, Kahlil Joseph's "BLKNWS: Terms and Conditions," a dense, collage-like exploration of Black identity and history, playing at the Lumiere Music Hall. Anyone who saw the recent blockbuster exhibition of artworks by Joseph's brother, the late Noah Davis, at the Hammer Museum will also find "BLKNWS" a worthwhile experience.

Cinematographer Roger Deakins on the future of the Coen brothers

Roger Deakins is among the most celebrated and best-known cinematographers of his era. A two-time Oscar winner, he has worked with filmmakers such as Joel and Ethan Coen, Sam Mandes, Denis Villeneuve and many more, on films including "No Country for Old Men," "The Big Lebowski," "Skyfall," "Sicario," "Blade Runner 2049" and "1917."

Deakins, 76, who often works in collaboration with his wife James Ellis Deakins, has for the past few years been hosting a podcast, "Team Deakins," interviewing filmmakers. He has recently published "Reflections: On Cinematography," which is part memoir and part how-to, drawing from his personal archives to explore his work on so many contemporary classics.

On Sunday, the American Cinematheque will screen director Andrew Dominik's 2007 "The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford" at the Aero Theatre with both Roger and James present for a Q&A and book signing.

They recently got on a video call from their home in Santa Monica to talk about the book, their relationship and whether to expect another movie from the Coen brothers.

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One of the things that's so striking about the book is that it is very much a memoir, the story of your life, but it is told through these movies and an exploration of your artistic practice.

Roger Deakins: Well, that was the balance. We didn't want it to be a technical manual and we didn't want it to be a sort of tell-all or just recounting old stories.

James Deakins: When you work in the film business, it's so intense. Your work is your life.

Roger Deakins: Especially when I started out, shooting in documentaries for a few years, that was the life experience that opened the world to me. I didn't see the world other than my experiences shooting films, whether it was documentaries or later fiction films, like going together to Morocco to shoot "Kundun." The life experience actually has always been as important to me as the actual work.

Can you tell me a little bit more about just the relationship between the two of you, traveling together, working on all these different movies? What has that meant to you?

Roger Deakins: It's all very weird. That is so not me.

James Deakins: The reason why we work so well together is Roger's very intent on what he is doing and doesn't particularly want to talk to other people during that time period. And I do — I love to talk to people. I love to solve problems. I love to do all that. So together we kind of make this whole. But we also have a lot of people come up to us and ask us for relationship advice.

Roger Deakins: When we met, I think I was 41 or something. We were both fairly kind of, not lonely, but we were loners, both of us. And we connected on a film. We met on a film together. James was script supervisor on a film that I was shooting. And after that film, it just seemed obvious to me that we should be together. And it's been wonderful. We've just shared these life experiences together. I couldn't really understand other relationships, which seemed to work well, where one person goes away and works on a movie for like six months and then comes back home and tries to step back into a relationship like nothing had happened. I don't see that. So we've always shared things together. Doing the podcast was very much James' idea, but I've kind of warmed to it.

When people ask for relationship advice, what do they want to know?

James Deakins: They're saying, "I've got to travel so much. How do I keep it together?" Or: How do we work together? Just, will this work? Is it possible? It's very strange, because we've just done a very technical Q&A and my head's there, and then someone comes up to me — and I can always kind of tell because they're bearing down on me — and they go, "I just want to ask you…"

Roger, in the book you talk about how, when you were starting out and in film school, you thought of yourself as a director. As you started shooting more for other people, did that create a sense of a path not taken?

Roger Deakins: I would be lying if I was saying there wasn't a little bit way down deep inside of me that was saying: What if I had tried to become a director instead? But on the other hand, I've been part of so many movies with so many really nice, intelligent people. And I really do have a confidence problem. We did try and get together a couple of projects a number of years ago and I just don't have the confidence. I'm terrible going into a studio and pitching a project.

I'm just not that political person. I love nothing more than being on a set with a whole group of people. I love just working with the camera crew and electricians and the grips and the painters and everybody else. I love that collaboration. And often a director is in a much more lonely place.

Do you feel like you have a signature? What is it that you bring to a project?

Roger Deakins: I hope I don't have a signature. I hope I just have a way of relating to a story and something in front of me. Maybe there's some sort of personal perspective.

James Deakins: Well, I think you bring a commitment to the project. And you also are so committed to creating the director's vision as opposed to you coming in and saying, "Well, let's make it the way that I always do it." And so I think you allow what the director has in his head to come out.

Roger Deakins: It's also really important that you're not just there to create pretty pictures. Oh, that's a great sunset, but what the hell does it have to do with this story? Or: Let's put up five cameras and get a lot of material and we'll cut something out of it later. That's the extreme version of something that's anathema to me.

You say that people confuse pretty cinematography with good cinematography. How do you define good cinematography?

Roger Deakins: Cinematography that's not noticed. Not noticed because people are too absorbed in the story. When you go to a premiere or any screening and you come out and somebody comes out and says, "Oh, I love that shot where such and such" — that was a mistake because not one shot should stand out. Somebody said, "Oh, wasn't that a lovely sunset?" Then you've taken the audience out of the film. You've just drawn attention to the image.

So even for all the astonishing images you've created, you still think that they shouldn't be noticed?

Roger Deakins: In a way. I mean, obviously on some films you've got more license than others. Obviously I could have more fun on "Skyfall" in certain instances, or "Blade Runner," more than I could on "No Country for Old Men." "Blade Runner," I could do these kind of lighting things in the Wallace building because that was part of the character, that was part of his creation, not mine. So it kind of felt integral to the character. But in another situation, I'm never going to do that kind of lighting.

You haven't shot anything for a few years now. Are you hoping to find something?

Roger Deakins: Kind of. It depends which day you ask me, really.

James Deakins: Really depends on the project. And we haven't seen anything, really.

A lot of people are very eager for Joel and Ethan Coen to work together again. Have you had any conversations with them?

Roger Deakins: Well, Joel's just been directing a film in Scotland, his own film. I've talked to Joel on and off lately and, well, actually Ethan not that long ago, but I'm not sure what their plans are now. So that's all talk. That's like talking about my football team, Manchester United. What's the next player they're going to buy? Who knows?

Points of interest

'Coming Home'

On Monday, the Frida Cinema will show Hal Ashby's 1978 "Coming Home," starring Jane Fonda, Jon Voight and Bruce Dern. Fonda and Voight both won Academy Awards for their performances and the film was named best picture by the Los Angeles Film Critics Assn.

"Coming Home" is an exploration of the costs of war at home and also about learning to live with disability. Voight plays a Vietnam veteran who returns a paraplegic, struggling to adjust to his new life. Fonda is a woman whose husband (Dern) is deployed to Vietnam. When she begins to volunteer at the local VA hospital, she reconnects with Voight's Luke, a friend from high school. As the two begin an affair, all three of their lives are upended.

Critic Kristen Lopez will be there to introduce the screening, as well as sign copies of her new book, "Popcorn Disabilities: The Highs and Lows of Disabled Representation in the Movies."

Via email, Lopez explained her selection of "Coming Home," saying "it's one of the few movies that, I think, even though it's not cast authentically, does illustrate the disabled experience in an authentic way. Director Hal Ashby, producer Jane Fonda and star Jon Voight did deep research into disabled veterans, specifically wheelchair users, and it's the first movie I remember seeing that got the little bits of disabled business correct. It's also a movie that, even today, is remarkably progressive in how it portrays disability. Luke Martin has a home and a car, he's self-sufficient, and too often we don't see how disabled people live."

'Putney Swope'

Opening the series "Present Past 2025: A Celebration of Film Preservation" at the Academy Museum will be the world premiere of a new 35mm print of Robert Downey Sr.'s 1969 "Putney Swope." A biting satire of how corporate culture handles race, the film stars Arnold Johnson as the title character, who is unexpectedly made president of a major advertising firm and proceeds to upend all of its messaging. Paul Thomas Anderson has often spoken of Downey as an influence — an influence that can be clearly seen in the anti-authoritarian "One Battle After Another."

In his original January 1970 review, Charles Champlin wrote, "'Putney Swope' is not so much a movie as a cartoon with real people. … 'Putney Swope' is not for anyone who demands good taste in movies, or restraint, or a presumption of dignity in the human character. But in its youthful, irreverent and uninhibited but medicinal way, 'Putney Swope' is shocking good fun."

Also playing as part of the Academy's preservation series, which runs through Dec. 22, will be world premiere restorations of William Wyler's 1934 "Glamour," John M. Stahl's 1933 "Only Yesterday," Lloyd Corrigan's 1931 "Daughter of the Dragon" and George Marshall's 1945 "Incendiary Blonde." Other titles in the series include North American restoration premieres of Konrad Wolf's 1980 "Solo Sunny" and Mikio Naruse's 1955 "Floating Clouds," plus the U.S. restoration premieres of Howard Hughes' 1930 "Hell's Angels" and Pedro Almodóvar's 1986 "Matador."

'While You Were Sleeping'

On Dec. 5, the New Beverly will screen a matinee of John Turteltaub's 1995 "While You Were Sleeping." (Take that extra long lunch or just knock off work early. It's the holidays.) This winsome, utterly charming romantic comedy really helped cement Sandra Bullock's screen persona and stardom, and deservedly so. A lonely woman (Bullock) who works in a ticket booth for the Chicago Transit Authority quietly pines for a handsome man (Peter Gallagher) she sees every day. After she helps save him from an accident, a misunderstanding at the hospital leads his family to believe she is his fiancée while he is in a coma. Then she meets his brother (Bill Pullman) and the complications really ensue.

In his original review of the film, Peter Rainer wrote, "Bullock is a genuinely engaging performer, which at least gives the treacle some minty freshness. Her scenes with Pullman are amiable approach-avoidance duets that really convince you something is going on between them. Like Marisa Tomei, Bullock has a sky-high likability factor with audiences. She can draw us into her spunky loneliness — you want to see her smile."